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        <![CDATA[ The full horrors of the pension scam are just dawning on me, as I wait for a letter from the Deutsche Rentenversicherung after teaching Business English here
for several years in ignorant bliss. Does anybody have information on what may happen if I simply pack up and run? I mean, how far will the authorities go
after somebody who has left the country?

Also, is there any point in appealing a decision, and  is it possible to delay the process while arranging a dignified retreat? And what can... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Another pension question ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <font face="Arial" color="#0000FF" size="2">Hi Les
<br>
<br>
You are supposed to have health insurance cover - and the local authorities may refuse to issue you with the necessary permits if you don&#39;t have any.
<br>
<br>
To be honest though, I would take out health insurance cover because if you <u>do</u> need treatment here... ouch! 
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Not having any health insurance can be very expensive - especially if it involves an operation or a stay in hospital.
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German schemes are... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Hi John,</p>

<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I reckon that this year, the combined totals of <em>Rentenversicherung</em> and <em>Krankenkasse</em> (if I paid them) would be
more than 50% of my income, which makes working here a nonsense.</p>That raises another complex question - do you know if it&#39;s now obligatory for
self-employed language trainers to take out <em>Krankenkasse</em>? I&#39;ve declined this because of the high cost of it here and the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hi Les
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The translating option is also worth looking into. Might be difficult to separate that work from teaching if you billed for teaching, but if you can show that
50% of your classroom time was actually spent translating emails, rather than teaching, the DRV will have to take that into account re. their backpayment
demand. 
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If your students are prepared to back that up, you should be able to reduce the backpayment demand considerably.
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Pension contributions and... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Hi John,</p>

<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Thanks for the info, it&#39;s given me something to work on and I feel a bit more relaxed about things.</p>

<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Yes, <em>Härtefall</em> looks promising and could create a bit of breathing space to plan an alternative future.</p>

<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Another option may be to argue that much of my time spent with companies was actually used for translating their emails etc.
rather... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Les)</author>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>Hi Les</p>

<p>If you pack your bags and flee the country, the DRV will still demand back payments from you if they know where you are.
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You can, of course, appeal against the decision and this usually holds everything up for several months while it goes to court.
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If you don&#39;t have the money to pay the contributions they want, you can argue that you are a <em>Härtefall</em> - in other words, you wouldn&#39;t have
enough money to live on. If that is the case, the DRV... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The full horrors of the pension scam are just dawning on me, as I wait for a letter from the Deutsche Rentenversicherung after teaching Business English here
for several years in ignorant bliss. Does anybody have information on what may happen if I simply pack up and run? I mean, how far will the authorities go
after somebody who has left the country?
<br>
Also, is there any point in appealing a decision, and  is it possible to delay the process while arranging a dignified retreat? And what... ]]></description>

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